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Stephen Karlson

"To be a system, something has to be created and controlled from above."

That's an error of categorization. We speak of a solar system, in which "control from above" is an article of faith, not an empirical reality, and we speak of ecosystems, which have some of the emergent properties of market systems. My use of "market systems" is deliberate. Ecosystems and market systems are examples of complex adaptive systems that tend to do what they darn well please.

Craig Westover

I agree on the control issue, but any system has only three outputs -- how many, of what kind, at what cost. Capitalism may not be controlled, but the output is still the same -- how many of what kind at what cost. Isn't that a system?

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